The inimitable JAY-Z sat with Elliott Wilson of the Rap Radar Podcast earlier this month for an extensive interview, which they broke into two parts. The second half of the interview has arrived and finds Hov opening up more about his family, specifically his mom Gloria Carter.

Gloria Carter.

The JAY-Z  confessed he didn’t have  Gloria’s  blessing for the song “Smile,” the 4:44 track that divulges she’s a lesbian.
“We just had a beautiful conversation and it led to me making the song, and I didn’t have permission to make the song,” JAY admitted. “When she first heard then song, she was like, ‘Absolutely not,’ and I was like, ‘Man, this is so important.’ So many people in the world hiding and things like this and this will help you … That’s how we spoke about that song. I was just so happy at the person she become … It’s one of my proudest songs.”JAY also discussed how much he admires his mother, who he equates to the late poet and civil rights activist Maya Angelou.

“It’s a beautiful story,” he said. “I was just so proud. I’ve always had love for my mother. I always looked up to her. Man, she’s so fucking dope. My mom has been dope her whole life. She’s just a dope person. Listen to her, she sounds like Maya Angelou. Her pacing, her voice is just so regal. She’s a speaker. Our relationship developed to another level as I started getting to know myself.”

Many might not realize what a monumental moment his induction into the Songwriters Hall of Fame truly was — he was the first MC to ever have that honor. JAY used his moment in the spotlight to educate the younger Hip Hop fans.

“When the person is writing that [Eric B. & Rakim’s ‘I Know You Got Soul’] and is not in the Songwriters Hall of Fame … it’s no knock on the Songwriters Hall of Fame, I’m just pointing out, ‘You might have missed this. You might have missed KRS One. You might have missed LL — you might have missed all these people … Big Daddy Kane. I just was happy. I was literally just happy. I was just happy for the culture.”

While the interview is another TIDAL exclusive, check out the small clip above and head to TIDAL to watch it in its entirety.